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On 12/24/2001, Chris Neal wrote:
"This is a very impressive insight into model rocket modifications! Thanks for sharing! Also, could you add the "According Tape Method" for shock cord absorbtion on the rocket construction tips page? Also, absorbtion is spelled wrong on this page... Cory's friend that was at the 2nd launch of the SM in Rainbow Valley on 12/22. Thanks guys! -Chris"
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MK I
This rocket started out as a stock Estes Fatboy that my son Christian got for his birthday. Seeing that he was only six, he would need lots of "help" building it. Our local club MASA, was staging a Fatboy competition so I desired to create something a little different. I wanted to modify it to make it capable of mid power flight. I also wanted to experiment with rear ejection. The model has gone through several involuntary modifications, and I am currently working on Frankenboy MKIV

The first modification (MKI) to this Fatboy was to discard the balsa fins and to replace them with aircraft plywood. Second, the motor mount was increase to 24mm to allow for black powder D, and Single use composite E motors. The third modification was the rear ejection system.

Aestetically, I never liked the look of decapitated rockets coming down on a parachute. I wanted this rocket to come down looking as smooth and sleek as it went up. For that reason, I did not want an ejecting engine pod such as is used on the Estes Sizzler. I wanted to see Rocket, chute, and nothing else on decent. My solution was to mount a long BT-20 Tube along side of the engine mount. The BT80 tube has just enough room for the BT20 when a BT50 is mounted in the center. The 18" parachute would be wrapped into a thin-rod shape and inserted in to the tube. To make sure the parachute tube would not excessively imbalance the rocket to one side. I added a mass of putty opposite it to balance it out. This, the plywood fins and the epoxy I added for strength resulted in my having to add considerable nose weight.
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I finished off the parachute tube with a neat little cap made from an engine block and the punch out from a centering ring. It was held onto the shock cord with length of Kevlar thread. The shock cord was made from multi-strands of Kevlar thread braided together by my long-suffering wife, with a length of elastic cord for shock absorption. The Kevlar cord was epoxied into the nose cone and would be exposed to ejection blast. The elastic would be kept on the cool side of the ejection.
Concerned about the reliability of this contraption, I rigged an ejection simulator out of my son's "Stomp Rocket" Launcher (This is a toy in which small missiles are propelled by displaced air coming out a bladder which is "stomped" with your foot). In the simulation this ejection method proved very reliable. With only moderate pressure the chute ejected cleanly, and virtually unfurled due to shear momentum.

When finished the rocket looked pretty good, with no visible seam between the tube and the nose cone, other than that, indistinguishable from a Stock Fatboy

The first launch of the Frankenboy MKI was on a D12-3 at the MASA Fat boy flyoff. The Frankenboy got 2 feet off the end the launch rail, did a chicken dance, then flopped onto the sod. Seconds later the parachute deployed flawlessly onto the lawn.

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I was very surprised, as RocSim predicted an altitude of about 500-ft, and the swing test demonstrated I had positive stability. What did not consider was the exit speed on the rocket leaving the rod was too low, resulting in an unstable flight. Post crash inspection revealed not a scratch of damage on the paint job (we launch at a nice, spongy sod farm), but when I went to re-pack the chute, it would not go in.

What had happened was that the parachute tube had collapsed from the pressure of the ejection charge. I had suspected this as a potential hazard, but since it did not occur during the simulated ejections, I thought it was safe.

MK II

If I were going to try and fly this again, I would have to redesign the parachute compartment. One thing that is tr ue of rear ejection models is that they are difficult to repair internally, having only one end to work with. In this case I had to extract the remains of the BT-20 parachute tube through .75 diameter hole. I felt like a rocket proctologist. Reassessing the design I realized that more weight would be needed to stabilize the rocket. I would also have to redesign the parachute compartment to eliminate the external over-pressure.

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After some consideration I eliminated the parachute tube altogether and created a kidney shaped parachute compartment between the fin tenons. Additional nose weight needed to be added. This necessitated extracting the remains of the parachute tube that was still rattling about the upper cavity of the rocket.

This problem lead me to discover a useful tool for the range box; the fishhook removal pliers. This tool has a small jaw on the end of a long arm and operated by a pistol grip. It is very useful for manipulating inside body tubes to a depth of about 8 inches. The nose weight was added by holding the rocket upside down and dropping the appropriate amount of split shot through the parachute cavity, where it settled in the nose cone. I then thinned epoxy with mineral spirits and poured it through a paper cone, through the parachute cavity into the nose cone. It took a couple shots to completely secure the weight. I reused the recovery laundry from the MK I version (Stock plastic Parachute and kevlar, and elastic Cord.
 
FrankenBoyWChute . The result was a heavy, but stable projectile. A D12 motor was now out of the question. The motor of choice would be the Aerotech E15-7 or E30-7 motors. Design of the parachute compartment precluded RMS Motors. The Franken Boy MKII was Ready for the next MASA launch. This times both the flight and the recovery were perfect. The E15-7 motor lifted it straight up to about 1300 ft. where the chute unfurled flawlessly.

The next time I launched it was during a visit to Colorado the next month. This time on an E30, it shot off the pad like a mortar. Everyt thing went fine until the ejection of the chute. The parachute shrouds ripped through the plastic chute. (this was rather dramatic to watch) As it fell, it began to move so fast we couldn' t follow it to the ground. I spent well over an hour looking for it. The high velocity impact destroyed the forward two thirds of the body (as well as a yucca plant), Fortunately, the fin unit was intact, so rebuilding it was a worthwhile effort.


MKIII

For the Frankenboy MKIII, I decided to go for broke. I considered abandoning rear-ejection, but I liked the look so much, I had to give it another try. I also decided to go for largest motor that would fit in this configuration. The 24mm G55-10 For parts I bought a second fat boy kit, since this was the lowest cost way to get the nose cone, tube and decal (Michael's Crafts and a fortuitous 20% discount). Now that I had access to the front of the rocket, I extended the parachute compartment to make room for more shock cord and a nylon chute. The engine tube was extended all the way to the front of the rocket. No engine block was installed except in the cap on the end of this tube. Ejection Gas exhaust holes are drilled into the sides of the tube, and balsa supports are added to compensate for the loss in stre ngth caused by the holes. More weight is required for stabilization when a G55 is used over an E30. Provision was made for an insertable counterweight that would go in before the motor. This way the weight could be optimized based on the motor used.

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Different length counter weight tubes would be used with different length motors I added considerable internal bracing to make sure the engine tube, with the heavy counterweight and motor would stay fixed to airframe. The Shock cord was attached like a noose around motor mount to ensure in would stay connected to the rocket The plastic chute was replaced with a nylon chute, but I retained the length of heavy-duty elastic between the kevlar and the Chute, This proved to be fatal.

The next launch I attended was the SSS G. Harry Stine Memorial Launch, at Rainbow Valley Arizona (Yr. 2000). This was the perfect spot to launch a small rocket with a big motor.

The LCO gave the Frankenboy a huge build up, complementing me on fitting both rear-ejection and a G motor into a dime-store rocket. The launch was very impressive (See Below). It shot way out of sight. The crowd hooted and cheered when the chute came out, a tiny dot of orange against the deep blue desert sky. Unfortunately, It was soon clear that the parachute was not attached to the rocket, as it was drifting down way too slow. Someone soon found the airframe, and it was as badly damaged as the last time.

Sure enough, the elastic cord had snapped. This was the last time I would use elastic in a rocket. I feel confident that the nylon chute would not have been damaged by the shock cord.


Very Cool Launch Pictures:
Franken Boy on a G55-15 @ GHS 2000
Click here for launch video


MKIV

The MKIV project is sitting on my workbench, waiting for other projects to be completed. I have so many other things I want to build and try that I am going to let this sit for a while. When I do complete it, It will probably be an improved version of the MKIII



Lessons Learned.

Paper tubes cannot bear external pressure: Important to consider in a rear ejection design like this or if you have a novel baffle tube arrangement. I was mislead because the chute came out a such a low pressure, I thought that the pressure would be relieved before the pressure got high enough to collapse the tube, but I was wrong. Glassing the tube may have solved the problem, but it would add a lot of weight. To do this right your need to design your internal structure so that the parachute tube does not experience external pressure. This is what I did with versions MKII-III and it works fine.

Use Nylon Chutes: These are marginal enough in low power rockets. Don't use them with rockets heavier than a few ounces. The investment in a nylon chute will pay for itself. Remember that you can share your chutes between rockets, so the investment is minimal

Don't use Elastic Cord. Use Kevlar whenever possible in mid-power rockets. Again, it's worth the investment. For shock absorbsion, use the accordion tape method.

Get a second opinion: Had I shown the shock cord arrangement to someone knowledgeable, I would have been easily talked out of it, Poorly considered decisions will eventually fail you.

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